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you know this gets to the whole point

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right about um putting scientific rigor

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on all of this

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let's go now out front to robert powell

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executive board member for the

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scientific coalition

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for unidentified aerospace phenomena

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studies at uaps as

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as the scientists call them so robert

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look this is a much anticipated

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government report and it took a lot to

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get them to do this

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so they're saying there's no evidence

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that the aerial phenomena that navy

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pilots

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have talked about seeing are alien

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spacecraft but yet they admit they have

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no explanation as to what they actually

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are so then i don't know how they don't

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know what they aren't but they're saying

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they don't know what they are

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what's your reaction to that well

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you really it's very difficult to

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believe what they've said and here's why

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they said one thing and that is that

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these are not u.s

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craft so that leaves china russia

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and basically some unknown intelligence

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but the next step after that

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is is it russian or chinese and

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what was in that new york times article

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that was so interesting

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is that they said there were 120

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incidents over the last 20 years we know

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of

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and one or two in 2019 where are these

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100 plus incidents that means the

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government has

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a huge amount of data and over 20 years

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with that many incidents we haven't

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figured out

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if it was the chinese or the russians we

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have the most sophisticated radar

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we have spy satellites all over the

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planet we would know

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where these objects originated and where

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they headed to

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if they came from china or russia we by

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now

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we should be able to have figured it out

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if we haven't

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that's concerning extremely concerning

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especially given as you point out this

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is over quite a long period of time

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so um that would indicate a level of of

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technological advancement that is uh

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extremely disturbing that we wouldn't

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even know or be able to identify

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so you know we talk about these navy

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pilots robert they spoke out to 60

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minutes

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about what they call a white tic tac

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object that they saw off the coast of

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san diego

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here's how they described this

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the tic-tacs don't point north-south it

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goes

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and just turns abruptly and starts

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mirroring me so as i'm coming down

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it starts coming up so it's it's

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mimicking your moves yeah it was where

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we were there

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so i go like this and it's climbing

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still and when it gets right in front of

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me it just disappears

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disappears disappears like gone

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so robert okay what do you think these

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objects actually are

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and what do we need to do to find out i

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would hope everyone could agree that

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it's not okay to say well we don't think

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it's aliens but we have no idea what it

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is like

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that's not acceptable as a conclusion

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yes you're absolutely right aaron we

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can't say we just don't know

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and just hope that whatever this is

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resolves itself

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uh the organization i represent we did a

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270 page

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paper on that specific event that

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involved commander fravor

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and we took not only his statement but

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the statements of commander slate

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and the other two pilots that were

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involved and using their statements

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if you believe them that this object

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disappeared in one to two seconds

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then you basically have accelerations

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that are hundreds to thousands of g's

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which is at least 100 years more

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advanced than anything we've got on the

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drawing board today

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it's an incredible and thought-provoking

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way to leave this obviously so many more

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questions to answer robert i appreciate